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Post time 2022-11-09 16:37:21 | Show all posts |Read mode
Edited by Jackson at 2023-04-27 09:42

Hello.  I Can I install a SAMSUNG 870 QVO SATA III 2.5" SSD 2TB (MZ-77Q2T0)?
Into GTR5 5900hx


sounds likea  good drive?  Thanks
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Post time 2022-11-09 19:07:04 | Show all posts
Hello,
Yes, you can.
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Post time 2022-11-10 09:13:21 | Show all posts
Edited by nighthawk at 2022-11-10 09:35

hello,

Yes no problem, you can use the the Samsung QVO 2 TB in the GTR 5.

But if you can buy the Samsung 870 EVO. It is more expensive (about 30 euro's here in Belgium) but it uses TLC memory that is better than the QVO's QLC memory. Especially on the endurance site.

The 870 QVO 2TB has  a 3 Years Limited Warranty or 720 TBW Limited Warranty what ever comes first. The 870 EVO 2TB on the other hand has a 5 Years Limited Warranty or 1,200 TBW Limited Warranty what ever comes first.

TBW means TeraBytes Written: it is the total amount of data a SSD can write in its lifetime. So a drive with a 720 TBW will start to fail after you have written 720GB to it etc.

Both drive are good performance wise (the Samsung EVO 2TB is maybe 10% faster in tests according to UserBenchmark) but the longer warranty and the higher TBW gives the Samsung EVO 2TB a big edge in my opinion. Yesterday I ordered a Samsung EVO 1TB 2.5 inch drive myself.


My 2 cents!


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 Author| Post time 2022-11-11 07:38:11 | Show all posts
Edited by Jackson at 2022-11-11 07:40

Perhaps the QVO is lacking the data management of the EVO.  
I see, it's a different data storage type medium.
Thanks for the input.

I also like to consider Crucial products.  Sabrent is often highly rated but that is for NVME.
I was more inclined to to shop NVME later.

Do you remember what website goes over the stats of different hard drive products?
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Post time 2022-11-11 12:14:55 | Show all posts
Edited by nighthawk at 2022-11-11 12:16

I just answered you but I got the message "your post needs moderating" when posting it. Don't know why but I hope that they will release it. It took me 30 minutes to write

The QVO and the Evo have the same SSD controller. But the EVO is way better at writing, has a high TBW and maxes out the SATA bus like no other 2.5 inch sata drive does at this moment.  That is why I chose it. The Crucial MX 500 series has also a good reputation but is getting a bit old .

For more info just google it.

Today I got my Samsung 870 EVO 1TB like I wrote in my post before.

drives.jpg


I you have more questions, just ask.

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 Author| Post time 2022-11-11 19:37:35 | Show all posts
Since USB 3.0 (apparently the blue port) has a higher speed than SATA SSD, is there a speed reason for me to install it internally?
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Post time 2022-11-12 10:14:02 | Show all posts
Edited by nighthawk at 2022-11-12 10:35

Hello,

Connecting a Sata SSD to an USB 3.x adapter will not help you to speed up your data transfer if you think that.

The limiting factor here is the SATA interface. The maximum uncoded transfer rate is 600MB/s for SATA 3. Lower than the uncoded USB 3.0 640 MB/s, USB 3.1 (1280 MB/s) or 3.2(2560 MB/s)!  The coded transfer rate is even lower due to flow control, packet framing and protocol overhead, (information that needs to be added to the data stream to let the drive and machine talk to each other). If two devices  transfer data between each other it is always the slowest device that will define the speed.

Look at it this way: if  I am riding my horse on a very small road and you are behind me driving a  fast Porsche or Ferrari you will drive at the speed I am riding. Your speedy car will just be as slow as me on my horse!

So if it is your intention to connect the new drive permanently to your GTR 5 it is best to connect the SATA drive to your onboard SATA interface. In that way you don't loose your fast USB 3 ports. That would be a big waste!

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Nighthawk

Ps: I used the old names of USB 3.0,3.1 etc. Today there all named USB3.2. They messed the naming real up in 2017!

USB 3.0, is now called USB 3.2 Gen1.
USB 3.1, is now named USB 3.2 Gen2x1
USB 3.2, also named USB 3.2 Gen2x2, was released in 2017. It can be regarded as a USB 3.1 with dual channel mode. USB 3.2 use USB Type-C interface to enable dual-channel mode and each channel has a transmission speed of 10Gbps. Therefore, the theoretic speed of the USB 3.2 is 20Gbps.

But be careful :not every USB C connector is using the USB 3.2 GEN2x2 protocol!  USB C is a connector form.  You could have a USB C connector that uses the USB 2.0 protocol or one of 3.2x protocols.

Confusing no? Look at Wikipedia or google it for more info!

Now tell me: what protocol are those 3 USB 3 ports using on the GTR 5? And what protocol uses the USB C connector on the front?  :-)

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 Author| Post time 2023-04-26 14:00:51 | Show all posts
Edited by Jackson at 2023-04-26 14:05

Hello.  I've gotten myself a 2.5 Crucial SSD.  How do I open the unit?  Just unscrew?
It is not the easiest to unscrew.  I do not appear to be making progress.


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 Author| Post time 2023-04-26 14:35:47 | Show all posts
Ok, I do still have hte manual which has a page on SSD installation, and there's an official video on youtube.  It does appear you just unscrew it, maybe I need a better screw driver.
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 Author| Post time 2023-04-27 09:41:42 | Show all posts
What size screw driver do I need to unscrew GTR 5900 to install hard drive?  My current of precision screwdrivers goes down to 1.4 mm
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